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		<title>My Favorite Guitar (Revisited)</title>
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I&#8217;m ripping myself off. Actually, I&#8217;ve had a few requests to revisit an old article about one of my guitars so here it is, this time with photos. In the past year the guitar made appearances on the albums Out Of Confusion by ConFused5 and The Running Time by SolidTube, both of which I produced [...]]]></description>
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<p>I&#8217;m ripping myself off. Actually, I&#8217;ve had a few requests to revisit an old article about one of my guitars so here it is, this time with photos. In the past year the guitar made appearances on the albums<a href="http://www.sellaband.com/shop/artist/confused5/"> Out Of Confusion</a> by <a href="http://www.confused5.com/">ConFused5</a> and <a href="http://www.sellaband.com/shop/artist/solidtube/">The Running Time</a> by <a href="http://www.solidtube.net/index.php?option=com_frontpage&amp;Itemid=1">SolidTube</a>, both of which I produced for <a href="http://www.sellaband.com/">Sellaband</a>. So, on with the guitar-porn&#8230;</p>
<p><div id="attachment_514" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 210px"><img class="size-full wp-image-514" title="strat" src="http://www.madelikethis.com/petestrobl/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/strat1.jpg" alt="MK signature Strat" width="200" height="300" /><p class="wp-caption-text">MK signature Strat</p></div></p>
<p>My favorite guitar is a Fender Mark Knopfler Signature Stratocaster. I love this guitar for two reasons. For starters, she is just a fantastic guitar not only to play but to look at and admire, and I&#8217;ll get into that in a moment. But what makes her so very special to me is that she was placed into my care by Mark as a &#8220;thank you&#8221; for the small part I played in support of his <a href="http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/markknopfler/albums/album/6489069/review/6537360">2004 SHANGRI LA </a>album.</p>
<p>Electric bass is my weapon of accomplishment but I&#8217;ve always had a few guitars around for writing and teaching. On a more sensual level, there are some guitars which pay their way just by being beautiful to look at and touch in ways that result in wonderful noises. This is what my &#8216;62 P-bass and my first girlfriend once had in common. After fifty-some years, the bass is sexy as ever and still makes wonderful noises when I touch her just right. I can&#8217;t say with any certainty, but I&#8217;d hazard a guess that the old girlfriend hasn&#8217;t aged as well.</p>
<p>Everyone has a favorite &#8220;the one that got away&#8221; story. My stories tend to fall more into the &#8220;Pete, you are a friggin&#8217; idiot&#8221; category. I once bought a &#8216;63 strat for $75.00 and decided it was ugly, so I sold it and made fifty bucks! Now this was in the early seventies and fifty bucks kept me alive for a week so it was cool&#8230;I thought. It was ugly to me because of the color. I found out later that Inca Silver is a rare color and had I put that rare bastard in the the case and under the bed, well&#8230;every time I think about it I imagine a big pie hitting me in the face.</p>
<p><div id="attachment_515" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 210px"><img class="size-full wp-image-515" title="strat-bridge" src="http://www.madelikethis.com/petestrobl/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/strat-bridge1.jpg" alt="Vintage bridge" width="200" height="300" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Vintage bridge</p></div></p>
<p>I could write all day and into the night&#8230;into many nights, about my knuckleheadedness but let me get back to my favorite guitar. MK arrived at Shangri La the evening before we were to load in the instruments and digital recording gear. Some days before, I had taken delivery of the guitars he planned to use for the album. We spent the evening unpacking his guitars to get them acclimated to the Malibu air. Mark proved to be a true guitar junkie and we spent a most enjoyable evening fawning over each of the instruments as we set them free of the flight cases and let them run loose in what would be their home for the next five weeks.</p>
<p>One of the guitars for which Mark is known is a &#8220;frankenstrat&#8221; which, to my knowledge, is a &#8216;59 red Fender Stratocaster body mounted to a &#8216;61 neck with a rosewood fretboard. This guitar, with the middle and bridge position pick-ups out of phase, was the sound heard on &#8220;Sultans Of Swing.&#8221; Fender now markets The <a href="http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0117800815">Mark Knopfler Signature Strat</a> and I was surprised to find that both Mark and <a href="http://www.richard-bennett.com/">Richard Bennett</a> play these guitars on stage and in the studio just as they come from the factory. I admired the guitar and told Mark that it seemed like an instrument worth having and that I would look into getting one for the studio.</p>
<p>The weeks spent recording the album are another story but it must be said that a good time was had by all concerned. About a week after the circus left town, a guitar was delivered, addressed to Mark in care of Shangri La Studio. I emailed Mark&#8217;s tech in London and asked what was to be done with it and when the answer came, so did I. The guitar was no longer an anonymous &#8220;it&#8221; but a &#8220;she&#8221;&#8230;and she belonged to me!</p>
<p><div id="attachment_516" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 210px"><img class="size-full wp-image-516" title="strat-maple" src="http://www.madelikethis.com/petestrobl/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/strat-maple1.jpg" alt="Lightly figured maple" width="200" height="300" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Lightly figured maple</p></div></p>
<p>In describing the manufacture of the guitar, Mark had told me that he thought Fender had done an excellent job of reproducing his original Strat. As I had played both Richard&#8217;s and Mark&#8217;s guitars, I had to agree but these guitars were in the hands of world-class musicians and I suspected that they were handmade at the factory especially for them. I was surprised to find that this was not the case at all and that my new Strat was a spectacular instrument right out of the box. The first thing that impressed me was the finish which is a bright, hot-rod red nitrocellulose lacquer and absolutely flawless. The use of nitrocellulose insures that the guitar will age beautifully and actually sound better as the years pass. Her first impression simply knocks your eyes out. The neck is also finished in the old school lacquer with a beautiful, aged amber tint. The grain of the rosewood fretboard is very straight and runs the length of the neck with no run-out. This is not only visually attractive but will contribute to years of stability.</p>
<p><div id="attachment_517" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 210px"><img class="size-full wp-image-517" title="strat-rosewood" src="http://www.madelikethis.com/petestrobl/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/strat-rosewood1.jpg" alt="Rosewood" width="200" height="300" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Rosewood</p></div></p>
<p>I always judge the musical voice of an electric guitar un-plugged. When I play a guitar without amplification, I can hear and feel how the wood reacts to string vibration. Some guitars &#8220;speak&#8221; more clearly than others and there was an unmistakable similarity between the Signature Strats used on the session and my newly arrived beauty. There is a pronounced consistency in these instruments that speaks very highly of Fender&#8217;s quality control. But what impresses me is that when I have this girl in my hands, all the techno talk melts away and I&#8217;m left with a guitar that feels like she was handmade only for me.</p>
<p>Mark once said to me, <span class="pullquote pqLeft">&#8220;A beautiful guitar will be a friend to you for  life.&#8221;</span> Truer words were never spoken. This beautiful redhead has been a true friend and a hard working cohort who has never asked for a raise. She doesn&#8217;t mind bad weather, is kind to strangers and doesn&#8217;t bark at children. I am in love with this guitar. It is a Mark Knopfler Signature Stratocaster.</p>
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		<title>&quot;Well, What Does a Producer Do Anyway?&quot;</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 23:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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I have written a few words about the important role a producer plays in the recording process. My friends in the Sellaband community have made some interesting comments and have asked questions which caused me to take a step back and approach the subject from another angle.
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I have written a few words about the important role a producer plays in the recording process. My friends in the <a href="http://www.sellaband.com/">Sellaband</a> community have made some interesting comments and have asked questions which caused me to take a step back and approach the subject from another angle.</p>
<p>In a perfect world, we would all abide by the sage words of Rodney King and &#8220;Just get along.&#8221; Musicians would make music, engineers would see to it that the music was recorded to broadcast specifications and producers would steer the ship in the most efficient direction. Ego-less collaboration would be the order of the day, flowers would be in full bloom, the lion would lay down with the lamb and every day would begin with a happy ending.</p>
<p>NEWS FLASH! This just in&#8230;it&#8217;s not a perfect world. Collaboration implies cooperation. Making records, as in any endeavor where success hinges on sacrificing the needs, goals or opinions of the individual in favor of the welfare of all, can often become a competition of urinary ballistics or an exercise in comparative male protrusion measurement.</p>
<p>Engineers often see themselves as producers or are themselves frustrated musicians. And musicians are forever grabbing knobs and faders to show that they also know a thing or two about engineering. After the smoke clears, the producer will have a word with the musician, telling him to ignore the engineer&#8217;s tips on how to play the guitar, tell the engineer to put the knobs and faders back to where they were before the drummer played with them, and try to get a good take so the day hasn&#8217;t completely been a waste of time.</p>
<p>My friend <a href="http://www.acidplanet.com/artist.asp?songs=361627&amp;T=843">Pieps</a>, a very talented guitarist and songwriter from The Netherlands checked into the Sellaband forum and asked, &#8220;&#8230;But what if it all goes wrong&#8230;and an artist with a huge potential works with a bad taste producer?&#8221; Well, producers can be thought of as soccer referees. They never have a home game and the operative word, &#8220;taste&#8221;, is in the tongue of the beholder. Is a recording bad because we don&#8217;t like it? Or is it bad because it doesn&#8217;t make money?</p>
<p>Pieps&#8217; question opens a far reaching discussion concerning the cyclical cause and effect inherent in commercial music. The music must sell in order to justify the production costs which support the artists who make the music which must sell in order to justify the production costs which support the artists&#8230;etc. But what if we turn this question around? What happens when a producer is assigned an artist with worlds of potential but lacking in the skills associated with professional recording and/or the desire to acquire those skills?</p>
<p>The title of this entry is a direct quote from a young songwriter who was also the guitarist and bandleader of an act we attempted to produce at Shangri La. I&#8217;ll call him Dip-shit although that isn&#8217;t his real name. His band mates were John the drummer and an eye-candy bassist and co-writer called Dingbat. The band, Shit-for-Brains (also a pseudonym), had great potential. Their songs were catchy, they had a good look and there was commercial potential in their sound. We assembled a production team consisting of <a href="http://shopping.yahoo.com/p:Dennis%20St.%20John:1927183816:page=discography:subpage=all;_ylt=AlbiYEpp0RSJuGyy8CG7cf5UvQcF;_ylu=X3oDMTBudjZmdTkzBF9zAzg0MzkzMzAwBHNlYwNhcnR0b29s">Dennis St. John</a>, Neil Diamond&#8217;s former musical director and producer, engineer <a href="http://www.hitchcock-media.com/">Ron Hitchcock</a>, and me. I was to assist Ron in engineering, help the band dial in great sounds using Shangri La&#8217;s collection of vintage amps and instruments, oversee the vocal sessions, and help Dennis with any musical issues.</p>
<p>Dennis had been working with Shit-for-brains for two months polishing their songs. He helped them with song forms, had them re-write some weak lyrics and rehearsed the process of basic track recording. All of us, including the studio owner who was underwriting the project, believed that a hit record was in the making. After a long day of loading in, setting up the studio and getting sounds, we put a precious roll of tape on the Studer and mounted up.</p>
<p>What followed can only be described by a caravan of words. Funny, curious, innovative, frustrating, exasperating&#8230;and six weeks later, as we listened to the final mixes, the very walls of the studio oozed with vitriolic ill will. Shit-for-Brains respected nothing, learned nothing, acted every bit  the superstars and left the studio without doing the production team the courtesy of listening to the mixes all the way through.</p>
<p>When we pushed the record button, Dip-shit lead his band through the first song. Without any discussion with us, Shit-for-Brains decided to ignore the weeks of pre-production with Dennis. It was a classic case of passive-aggressive nutless behavior. Dennis went into the room and tried to give Dip-shit a way out by humorously asking if they had forgotten their medication. But it was clear that there was conflict within the band. Dingbat, who&#8217;s day job was telephone dominatrix ( I swear I&#8217;m not making this up!), stared daggers at Dip-shit as he stammered to Dennis that the band felt that the changes made in pre-production didn&#8217;t reflect &#8220;where the band was coming from.&#8221; As the studio owners representative, I stepped into the discussion to explain that a great deal of money and resources were being extended to Shit-for-Brains with the intent of realizing commercial return on investment. Therefore the production team, respecting the best interests of all parties, had a responsibility to use our best judgement in creating a viable product.</p>
<p>Everyone pretended to kiss and make up&#8230;but every change, every suggestion, every effect, every tone&#8230;every last detail was a fresh battleground. We would talk to Dip-shit in the control room, he would go into the studio and talk to Dingbat, she would yell at him and hand him one of his balls so he could remember that he had a pair at one time, the band would half-heartedly run through our version, tell us, &#8220;See, it doesn&#8217;t work!&#8221; and go back to their original demo versions. It was absolute hell and if it were left to me, I would have stopped the bleeding immediately. The studio owner didn&#8217;t deal well with confrontation so he went to Italy leaving me with instructions to &#8220;just get it done.&#8221; I think Dingbat the Dominatrix scared the shit out of him and he couldn&#8217;t wait to get away.</p>
<p>Speaking of Dingbat the Dominatrix, She really set the bar for stupid when we began to cut background vocals. Her bass playing was weak and out of time. She complained that she couldn&#8217;t hear the kick in the headphones but when she took them off, they were roaring like a boombox. We decided that she was deaf and planned on letting her overdub the bass parts without the drummer later. When it came time to set her up for vocals, I noticed that before putting on her headphones, she put wax earplugs in her ears! I was twisting the knobs on the headphone box with a Makita trying to get her enough gain&#8230;and she was wearing WAX EAR PLUGS!!! I started to point out how counterproductive this was and she launched into a self-righteous ignorant rant that this is the way she always worked and why everyone should think about protecting their ears and do the same. I tried to explain the obvious downside of her listening strategy but it was like pissing into a stiff wind. Besides, it was really hard to make words, I was laughing so hard.</p>
<p>You will never hear the music of Shit-for-Brains. I listened to a copy of the mixes and wondered what could have been. Here was a band that we believed in strongly enough to invest six weeks of studio time and three salaried professionals toward recording a product that would benefit everyone. Ultimately it was our error. They just weren&#8217;t ready. And to answer Dip-shit&#8217;s question, &#8220;What does a producer do, anyway?&#8221;&#8230;well Dip-shit, you may never find out. But it&#8217;s lucky for you that euthanasia is not part of the skill set.</p>
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		<title>A Demo By Any Other Name&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 23:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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&#8230;is still a demo.
There is a lively discussion on the Sellaband forum which asks the question, &#8220;Does the quality of the sound recording really matter?&#8221; The comments in answer to that question display the wide diversity of experience and expectations present within the Sellaband community. Opinions vary between artists, investors and fans. I take a [...]]]></description>
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&#8230;is still a demo.</p>
<p>There is a lively discussion on the <a href="http://www.sellaband.com/forum/about_sellaband/does-the-quality-of-the-sound-recording-really-mat-1258/">Sellaband forum</a> which asks the question, &#8220;Does the quality of the sound recording really matter?&#8221; The comments in answer to that question display the wide diversity of experience and expectations present within the <a href="http://www.sellaband.com/">Sellaband</a> community. Opinions vary between artists, investors and fans. I take a very firm approach and answer with a resounding and inflexible &#8220;Yes&#8230;and No&#8230;well, maybe&#8230;sometimes.&#8221;</p>
<p>Most of the mp3 recordings posted by Sellaband artists are of demo quality, that is to say, they are recordings meant to demonstrate the writing, performance and/or production potential of artists hoping to raise sufficient capital investment for the production of professionally recorded products. These recordings can vary widely from nearly complete studio versions to song fragments recorded on the humblest of devices. I&#8217;m not aware of any aspiring artists on the site posting previously signed material so I can only assume that the music, regardless of recording quality, is posted to demonstrate potential as opposed to finished, marketable product, although there may be exceptions.</p>
<p>I think of a demo as being in one of three distinct categories:</p>
<p>1. The Writing Demo: This can be as simple as a vocal rendition of a song accompanied by one instrument. The object of a writing demo is to sell a song to an artist, producer or publisher.</p>
<p>2. The Artist Demo: The purpose of an artist demo is to demonstrate the performance level of a particular artist. This could be a singer, a solo instrumentalist or an entire band. Artist demos are not limited to recordings of original music as they are frequently used to showcase talent for audition purposes.</p>
<p>3. The Production Demo: When a band or artist has written or secured material, a production demo can be recorded in order to demonstrate and conceptualize elements of style, instrumentation, character etc. An artist or producer will frequently make a production demo to focus attention on production concepts, explore different effects or to edit arrangements before spending precious or unavailable funds in a professional setting.</p>
<p>When an artist is also a songwriter and is struggling to hone his concept into something worthy of recording, he is frequently self-cast in the role of producer. The advent of relatively affordable recording technology has seduced many aspiring artist/writer/performers into believing that they can produce viable products. In some cases I&#8217;m sure that this can be the case. The fact that more and more of the listening audience hears music via mp3 and computer speakers further obfuscates the value of professional production techniques.</p>
<p>But again, allowing for the occasional home recording genius, thinking of even the best demo recording as a finished product can be a mistake. If you put two measures of ground coffee in your mouth, pour in boiling water and milk, and then put your face in front of a steam iron, you haven&#8217;t made cappuccino. All the elements are present, yes. And you&#8217;ve done a great job of gathering the ingredients and simulating the process. But what you&#8217;ve created is a convincing demo of a potential cappuccino. Before you go into mass production, you will need a pro and you will need pro-level tools.</p>
<p>The last project I took part in at Shangri La was the album &#8220;Suitcase&#8221; by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keb%27_Mo%27">Keb&#8217; Mo&#8217;</a>. Keb&#8217; has many years of recording experience and two Grammys under his belt and I was thrilled to assist producer<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Porter_%28musician%29"> John Porter</a> and engineer <a href="http://www.studioexpresso.com/profiles/RikPekkonen.htm">Rik Pekkonen</a> for the project. During the process of recording, I was in awe of what I heard coming out of the studio monitors. To me, it was all gold. But time and time again, after what seemed like a brilliant take, John would go out into the room and have a word with the musicians or go into the vocal booth with Keb&#8217;. It seemed like he was just taking a short break or resting his ears or maybe just sharing a joke. But every time he came back into the control room and had Rik push the &#8220;record&#8221; button, the next take would be magic. And the difference between Keb&#8217;s original demos and the grammy nominated album demonstrates to me the inestimable value of the collaboration between artist and producer.</p>
<p>I have written reviews of various Sellaband artists and in every case what is most compelling about these artists is potential. When I listen to <a href="http://www.sellaband.com/francisrodino/?sort=progress">The Francis Rodino Band</a>, I bow in respect to his songwriting and the performance abilities of the band. But I also know that what I&#8217;m hearing is the tip of the iceberg. The same goes for <a href="http://www.sellaband.com/vegas_dragons/?sort=progress">The Vegas Dragons</a>, <a href="http://www.sellaband.com/kontrust/">Kontrust</a>, <a href="http://www.sellaband.com/lonepine/">Lone Pine</a>, <a href="http://www.sellaband.com/wetwerks/">Wetwerks</a> and so many more. Mandana, the voice of <a href="http://www.sellaband.com/solidtube/">Solidtube</a>, and <a href="http://www.sellaband.com/lucia/">Lucia Iman</a> have the potential of making beautiful recordings. And then there is <a href="http://www.sellaband.com/confused5/">ConFused5</a>, a band that has resurrected itself after a 20 year hiatus and still retains the exuberance of a band of 20-year-old guitar rods. All of these artists and many more on the<a href="http://www.sellaband.com/"> Sellaband </a>web site have demonstrated massive potential by way of their demo recordings. But only the open-minded collaboration of a professional producer and all that comes with that will result in a great cup of coffee.</p>
<p>Because a demo by any other name&#8230;well, you know the rest.</p>
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